Getting the best from your X-Pot

19 thoughts on “Getting the best from your X-Pot”

    1. G’Day!

      Thanks for taking the time to write to us about using an X-Pot on a Trangia stove. Sorry for the delayed response – we’ve had issues with emails sent via the blog not being forwarded.

      The Trangia stove would work fine with the X-Pot. The key factor in choosing a stove to use with an X-Pot is how broad the flame pattern is: if the flame remains within the ring marked on the base of the pot, there should be no problems in using that stove.

      The flame pattern from a Trangia would stay well within that ring (and in addition, an alcohol stove will not burn as hot as a gasoline or propane/butane stove). We’re great fans of Trangia stoves because of their simplicity and reliability, by the way.

      I trust this information helps – if you have any further questions, shoot us an email at marketing@seatosummit.com

      Cheers

      B

    1. G’Day Jerry

      Thanks for contacting us about use of dry bags and X-Pots in cold weather. Sorry for the delay in replying – we’ve had some issues with messages not being forwarded from the blog.

      As far as the dry bags are concerned, you shouldn’t have any issues down to very cold temperatures below 0°F / -20°C. Unlike some other dry bags on the market which use basic urethane laminates, the welded bags (Stopper and Hydraulic) are made of Thermoplastic Urethane which would still be pliable at these temperatures. The sewn fabric dry bags (Lightweight Dry Sacks, eVac Dry sacks, Big River Dry Bags) will still be pliable at even colder temperatures, although care should be taken with the polypropylene stiffener built in to the roll-top closure of this type of bag.

      As to the X-Pots, the silicone rubber can be collapsed and expanded at temperatures below 30°F / 0°C. The silicone rubber may become stiff at temperatures around 20°F / -7°C, so we would advise cautious use in winter / mountaineering conditions (or rely on a more common alloy or titanium pot).

      If you’d like more details on either of these topics, shoot us an email at marketing@seatosummit.com and put ‘Cold Weather Performance’ in the subject line

      Cheers

      B

    1. G’Day Janet

      Thanks for taking the time to write to us about the fuel consumption of your stove when used with an X-Pot.

      The base of the X-Pot is made of an aluminum alloy which transmits heat very effectively (more so than would be the case with, for instance, a titanium pot).

      However, even if we were to assume a constant volume of water/vegetables inside an X-Pot there are a lot of factors which determine the amount of fuel a canister stove will burn in order to bring that content to a boil:

      – Not all stoves have the same thermal efficiency: some burn (much) hotter than others, some consume less fuel to burn at a given temperature.
      – Canister stoves work less efficiently as the outside air temperature drops, so boiling vegetables on a summer evening will take much less gas than boiling them on an early winter trip.
      – Canister stoves work less efficiently as the altitude increases; you would need a lot more gas to boil the vegetables at 12,000ft in the Sierras than you would at Sea Level.
      – Moving air will divert the flame from heating the base of a pot, so you need more gas to boil your meal in breezy conditions than you would in still air. Please note that a windshield should not be used with X-Pots; the trapped heat can damage the silicone walls.

      Given all of the above, it’s not possible to even give a rough guess as to the number of meals which could be prepared from one gas canister.

      If you’d like more information, please shoot us an email at marketing@seatosummit.com and include the words ‘stove efficiency’ in the subject line.

      Cheers

      B

  1. Our silicone cups pick up the smell from our spice tea and flavored coffee, what is the best way to get rid of that smell??

    1. G’Day Joan

      Sorry to learn that you’ve had an issue with odor retention in your X-Cups or X-Mugs

      The important thing is not to damage the surface of the silicone when cleaning it: if you use a scouring sponge, it can cause tiny scratches which provide a micro environment for residues to collect.

      To remove any odors which do cling to your X-Products, we would recommend using dishwashing soap & hot water. If this does not remove the odors leave a strong solution of baking soda and lemon juice in the cups for a couple of hours, then wash them with dishwashing soap & hot water. And if the cups still retain some odors, put them in the freezer overnight (this will not harm them).

      If none of these steps are effective, shoot us an email at info@seatosummit.com and we’ll look for a creative solution.

      B

    1. G’Day John –

      Thanks for checking in with us regarding use of the Trail Designs stove with the Sea to Summit X-Pot or X-Pot Kettle.

      If the Trail Designs stove is used with the alcohol burner or with the solid fuel cubes, there should be no issues with cooking using an X-Pot or X-Pot/Kettle (although, we would still recommend that any end-user read the X-Pot instructions thoroughly before use).

      If the Trail Designs stove is used with twigs or other wooden combustible materials, we would have strong reservations about usage with an X-Pot or (particularly) with the smaller X-Pot/Kettle. The issue is the unpredictability of the flame pattern produced by this type of material: it can both ‘flare up’ to form a much broader flame pattern than the X-Pot is designed to work with, and its heat output can very considerably/unpredictably.

      If you’d like further details, drop us a line at info@seatosummit.com and put “Use of wood-burning stove with X-Pots” in the subject line.

      Cheers

      B

  2. Love my 2.8 xPot, but have found the plastic lid has increasingly warped, developed fine cracks over time, then finally given up all together on my most recent weekend hike. The pot was expensive, and I only bought it towards the latter half of 2015. I would like to be able to replace the lid if possible please.

    1. G’Day Tina

      Sorry to learn that you’ve experienced some problems with the lid of your X-Pot. The failure as you describe it would certainly be covered under our warranty, and we would be happy to provide you with a replacement.

      Please send us an email at info@seatosummit.com with the words “X-Pot Lid Failure” in the subject line.

      Please attach a reasonably high-resolution image of the pot lid, and let us know:

      – The name and location of the store where the X-Pot was purchased
      – Your full shipping address (Street/city/state or province/country) and a daytime phone number

      my apologies for the inconvenience

      B

  3. Hello, I have a question about using a windshield with the X-kettle , I have a shield and it’s great on windy days and also keeping the heat in to make the water boil faster while using less fuel, so the question I really want to ask is, would the heat reflection from the shield damage the silicon? Otherwise I am happy to put some space between the kettle and the shield to keep the wind out but not reflect the heat.

    Thanks heaps!

    Dean

    1. G’Day Dean

      Thanks for your question regarding use of a windshield with the X-Pot/Kettle.

      Windshields vary, both in their vertical height and in how close they may come to the walls of a pot; and both of these factors will influence the amount of heat retained. Please bear in mind that the nylon handles and the lid can also be damaged by heat retained between the windshield and the silicone rubber walls of the X-Pot/Kettle.

      Some windshields might allow for adequate airspace between the shield and the sides of the X-Pot/Kettle; and some might also allow ventilation of the side
      facing away from the prevailing wind to allow heat to dissipate. Without sufficient airspace and ventilation on the leeward side a windshield should definitely not be used; even with both of these, keeping the burner setting low would be essential.

      On balance, because various designs will lead to varying degrees of heat retention which may well cause damage, we would not recommend using a windshield with the X-Pot/Kettle.

      I trust this helps – if you would like further information, please drop us an email at info@seatosummit.com and put ‘X-Pot/Kettle – windshield questions’ in the subject line.

      Cheers

      B

    1. G’Day Sean

      Thanks for checking in with us about a replacement lid for your X-Pot.

      Please know that Sea to Summit maintains a comprehensive stock of spare parts which we are happy to supply to our end users.

      If a product has failed due to a manufacturing or material defect, we will usually provide the spare part needed to restore the product to full function free of charge.

      Please drop us an email at info@seatosummit.com (with the words “X-Pot – cracked lid” in the subject line), enclose a picture of the damaged lid and let us know:
      – The name and location of the store where the X-Pot was purchased
      – The size and color of the pot
      – Your full shipping address and a daytime phone number.

      We’ll be happy to get a replacement lid on its way to you.

      Regards

      B

  4. I’ve been looking at the X-pot series for regular camping as well as some hiking trips as I hate doubling up on gear. You mention that camp stoves should be OK as long as the flame remains in the base ring. Are there any particular camp stoves you have tested it on or recommend?

    1. G’Day Dave

      Thanks for checking in with us about the best type of stove to use with an X-Pot.

      We have tested a wide variety of backpacking and camping stoves with X-Pots – here are a couple of points worth noting:

      – If you are using a Jetboil-type stove, you must use the pot adaptor when cooking with an X-Pot
      – If the stove you are using has a windshield, this should not be used with the X-Pot – it can concentrate heat which may damage the silicone sides or the lid of the X-Pot
      – All stoves should be run at a lower setting than might be the case with more conventional pots. The base of the X-Pot is a very good heat conductor; running the stove at a high setting will simply waste fuel and may result in a flame pattern which extends beyond the correct usage line printed on the base of the pot.
      – Solid-fuel backpacking stoves which burn wood should not be used.

      Given that you are in Australia, you will have access to a wide variety of stove brands. Our personal favourite from an engineering point of view come from the brand Soto – but any good stove will work if the above criteria are adhered to.

      Cheers

      B

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